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its just really really hard, at least afaik

intercepting the visual input to your brain and adding on what you're imposing before it's like

11:23 AM

given to your mind

it shouldn't be though, I guess it just takes time and lots of meditation and practice

meditation is great but we didn't do it for imposition

I don't mean physically as in changing the reality around you, I mean like, instead of imagining them you actually see them the same way you see the real world

just lots of practice while walking around (edited)

what did you do?

11:24 AM

oh well I try to visualize her next to me wherever I go

Lumi would impose the other three while walking between classes at college

and I presence impose her and I do feel her presence

11:25 AM

I just have a ton of trouble 24/7 visualizing her, that is HARD

imposing sense of presence is the most important one

I can do that near perfectly now

then you just gotta see an image around that presence

11:25 AM

audio and physical are optional

11:26 AM

smell and taste are rare ?

like I'l be walking and I'll suddenly realize "we;ve been walking, but to anyone else it would appear as though i am waking with no one, but I can feel her with me, that's really neat!"

11:26 AM

smell is rare simply because most don't pursue it

11:26 AM

I'd assume the same with taste

11:26 AM

vision is the hardest perception to fuck with

just the "taste your tulpa" meme

the other 4 are easily confused

probably depends on how good your visualization clarity is

11:26 AM

I don't think it should be harder than touch

11:27 AM

not including vague warmth

its odd though, they should all be equally confused, which I guess they are, I can confuse my eyes with some stuff quite easily, see warbles in the carpet, create small outlines/shadows of objects, but that's it visually atm

11:27 AM

but atm presence is the only imposition we have

presence is what helps you not feel alone!

wew there she goes right next to me. It's weird. she's here but not here, I can feel her here yetI can't see or hear her here, oof that is intense

super extremely nice for lonely or dark nights

my end goal is full and complete imposition of all 5 senses

we're more interested in lucid dreaming I think

11:28 AM

infinitely real-er

11:29 AM

our imposition is good enough

I want to do that too

11:29 AM

but to be with her int he real world would be great

11:29 AM

then we'd truly share it

lucid dreaming for being with them

11:29 AM

imposition for them being with you

11:29 AM

but both are good for both

imposition is awesome even when partial, from my experience

idk anyone who for sure had perfect imposition abilities

11:30 AM

like maybe they did and just didn't specify

she touched my shoulder the other day

11:30 AM

oof that was weird and out of no where

but afaik not many people get past as good as us

she was poking me when one randomly just registered

which is funny because our visual imposition is only as bad as it is because of our actually bad visualization

11:31 AM

otherwise it'd be gr8/8

afaik I know a dude who knows a handful of people with perfect visual imposition

11:31 AM

he meditates and shit for hours a day

11:31 AM

fuck that but if I have to I will

monk stuff

11:31 AM

lucid dreaming more fun

11:31 AM

also yes

eh maybe, that'll will be worked on in parralel to visualization practice

meditation or not, ya' need practice

11:32 AM

to get good

obviously

11:32 AM

we have been progressing mega fast

I recommend

I hope it applies to all areas of development but it rarely does

establishing habits

11:32 AM

Lumi's bad at motivation but he got good at imposition because he got in the habit of always imposing when walking between classes

I am trying to do that 24/7 all the time

11:33 AM

legit step 1 of the guide to visual impositio

11:33 AM

its mentally a nightmare

11:33 AM

straining hard core but we are already gettin gbetter

https://i.imgur.com/HytBmN1.png

11:33 AM

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basically the idea is to establish basic visualization as an unconscious thought routine

I mean you can

that is constantly running

but for a very long time it'll just be like, passive imposition

I know I can, you can do anything with the mind

which is fine..

yeah I know

we do it a lot

11:34 AM

obviously if you're not focusing on them

I just need to hammer it into my head so shes ALWAYS visualized

they don't needa' be in focus

the idea is that they stay in focus all the time no matter what you are doing

well, good luck

think of it like creating a mental script that keeps them alive, so they don't go inactive

hopefully you can find some fun things to do together

thakns

just watching is boring

we are, we spend all our time together anyway

honestly I have more fun going places imposed than fronting

11:35 AM

'cus I get to climb on things, sit on things, run around

11:35 AM

can't do that when I'm fronting, or at least I really shouldn't

11:35 AM

exception

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amusement parks

11:35 AM

being imposed is okay too but riding rides is best with the body

my allergy meds are hitting I feel sluggish

11:37 AM

oofooff

11:37 AM

I can fight them though, I knew I'd get tired

being tired just makes us bored more easily

11:38 AM

but if we're active or not-bored we don't really get tired